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Proposed Sets

Set 1 : Radioactive Spider
Ability: Sniper or Swarm
Nature: Adamant
Item: Scope Lends
IV spread: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Hidden Power: Not Relevant
Egg Moves:
-Baton Pass
-Night Slash
-Megahorn
-Toxic Spikes


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 1:50 pm

I'd go Sniper because it won't be alive long enough for Swarm to have any impact.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 2:04 pm

Yeah, I figured sniper would be better but I wanted to see what everybody else thought.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 2:24 pm

Geez this thing is bad. I didn't even realize how bad it is. BST of 390, really?!

Mega Ariados for ruby sapphire remakes!
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 3:47 pm

Maybe focus sash for the item? only way it can survive anything XD
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 3:50 pm

Trick room scope lens set. I know it would only be a fifty percent crit chance, but what the heck.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 3:56 pm

I'm fine with scope lens XD
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 5:44 pm

This thing is almost as monsterous as Beedrill. Prepare the world for an amazing Ariados! It shall unleash its fury!!!

(and I'd also go with Scope Lens)
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 6:50 pm

cmzoid wrote:
This thing is almost as monsterous as Beedrill. Prepare the world for an amazing Ariados! It shall unleash its fury!!!

(and I'd also go with Scope Lens)

Yes, when these 2 titans meet in battle, the whole world will stop and watch this devastating clash.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 7:53 pm

bouncer2085 wrote:
cmzoid wrote:
This thing is almost as monsterous as Beedrill. Prepare the world for an amazing Ariados! It shall unleash its fury!!!

(and I'd also go with Scope Lens)

Yes, when these 2 titans meet in battle, the whole world will stop and watch this devastating clash.

It could really be its own move. Pokemon 53: (Insert throwaway event legendary here) and the Unstoppable Battle.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 9:24 pm

I think megahorn should replace pursuit as one of the egg moves. It's the strongest possible attack that Ariados can use.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 9:29 pm

How come this thing has so many potential egg moves, yet is so mediocre. Its so unfair to the other pokemon lacking egg moves lol. I like Megahorn, but don't know what moves should be replaced. I'd probably get rid of Baton Pass due to how little this thing can take from a defensive standpoint and how slow it is.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 9:34 pm

I think replacing pursuit is better, since I don't see a situation where Ariados would actually use it.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 9:39 pm

ed819 wrote:
I think replacing pursuit is better, since I don't see a situation where Ariados would actually use it.

Yeah... it can't really survive anything to use Baton Pass, and it doesn't scare anything enough to force a switch lol
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptyFri May 30, 2014 10:58 pm

I guess Baton Pass could be used for switch initiative if you decide to run PU Tier Sticky Web. Pursuit probably isn't doing anything that Sucker Punch doesn't do better.

Tell you what, if anyone gets to the point where they need a Pursuit Ariados to win matches, I'll personally breed it for them.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptySat May 31, 2014 9:41 am

I think the EMs should be changed too:

Baton Pass, Megahorn, Night Slash/Pursuit/Rage Powder, Toxic Spikes

If you can get this in a Pokeball I'd recommend Dream(if legal) or Luxury. If you would want help with either let me know.


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptySat May 31, 2014 10:08 am

I still like Trick Room Scope Lens with Cross Poison and Night Slash. 50% chance to crit isn't bad. Maybe Sucker Punch for priority.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptySat May 31, 2014 10:21 am

Bunselpower wrote:
I still like Trick Room Scope Lens with Cross Poison and Night Slash. 50% chance to crit isn't bad. Maybe Sucker Punch for priority.

I agree with this. Normally trick room is too gimmicky to warrant being the only set bred for most pokemon, but I think Ariados is so bad that trick room is its only saving grace.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptySat May 31, 2014 10:37 am

I just came in here to look and everyone confused me and now i feel dumb...


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptySat May 31, 2014 11:45 am

Alright, since sniper has the most votes then ill breed one with sniper and change pursuit to megahorn. Now for a trick room set brave nature would be best right?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptySat May 31, 2014 12:35 pm

If you were to only breed 1 set I say Adamant is the way to go. Outspeeds everything up to max speed Serperior after 252 Adamant Agility which is nice w/ the technically free +2 if you get a crit w/ Cross Poison/Night Slash. Just not investing in speed it hits 116 which is fine if you want to use it in TR as nobody uses things that slow anyways except for other TR teams.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptySat May 31, 2014 12:37 pm

BlueDryBones1 wrote:
If you were to only breed 1 set I say Adamant is the way to go. Outspeeds everything up to max speed Serperior after 252 Adamant Agility which is nice w/ the technically free +2 if you get a crit w/ Cross Poison/Night Slash. Just not investing in speed it hits 116 which is fine if you want to use it in TR as nobody uses things that slow anyways except for other TR teams.

I'd just go with this, as it seems so very well thought out
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Spinarak   [Finished] Spinarak EmptySat May 31, 2014 1:09 pm

I also think adamant is better
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